Recently, I got myself added to a discussion list run by some people in the media industry I know - mostly guys, some gals, all intelligent, well read, open-minded. Well, all but one, I’ve found out.
This one person has a specific agenda in contributing to the group: to rile anyone and everyone. Yeah, yeah, that’s the nature of a free-form discussion. I know. And I have NO problem with him giving his opinion - on anything. Politics, state of the nation, trends, even when he imposes his rather twisted views of the female gender, our “place” in the world, etc. That doesn’t even phase me, really. It’s just sad. What made me mad was that he took it upon himself to bring a problem he had with one specific girl to the entire discussion group. That was wrong. Childish. But it certainly served his purpose well - he then proceeded to use his problem with this person as a platform to slander all women, everywhere. And I think now he’s intending to take us all on, one at a time.
So, understandibly, his subsequent derogatory references to lesbians, arab women, and any woman who has the jewels to speak her mind in ANY way (we’re all cunts by the way who should never speak unless spoken to), ruffled a few feathers. Raised a few mildly disinterested male eyebrows. Who knows. And then the whole thing snowballed.
Husband of the slandered woman wrote to stand up for his wife’s honor. Nothing too harsh. Nothing particularly confrontational, even. Just a request for a sincere apology. He got a big, fat, F-U back, complete with more ridiculously childish ranting about how much of a bitch his wife is, and some very strange references about how “northern” women (I’m guessing above the mason-dixon) would never let a girl “act like such a cunt - they’d generally kick her ass.” As a northern woman, I’m baffled. Not sure what else to say. Oh. And husband also got threats of physcial violence.
And with that, all hell broke lose.
A girl in the group wrote to admonish the woman-hater for his tastelessness regarding bringing his beef with the girl into a public forum. She was called a “whiny, crying princess” and summarily told to shut up and mind her own business like any good woman should. Lovely.
So, I added my comments to the fray. I’ll say this. My argument was well founded and contained no slams on the guy personally. (as much as I might have liked to postulate about why, oh why, a man might have such a problem with women. All the obvious reasons that have to do with rejection and tape measures and overcompensation for various weaknesses apply here). I was restrained. Cool. Rational. I got a few jabs in, but they were warranted. Maybe I’ll post what I said here in a more detailed re-cap sometime (i’m considering starting another blog devoted to this whole situation actually).
what I got back was, at best, the most vile thing I’ve ever had said to and about me. You want to know the definition of whack-job? Try a man who suggests that I “shut up or put out” (and that this is all that I’m good for), that “100% of the Arab, muslim, african american and mexican world, + most right wing christians know that women are inferior to men,” that I am an idiot for suggesting that the fact that he feels it is his right to speak his mind about what he feels, no matter how extreme, but should someone in a skirt challenge him, that they’re an automatic cunt (and that any man who backs her up is gay or has lost their balls), and that I am hopeless, fat, ugly, etc…and cannot now, nor should I ever hope to keep a man.
You know, them’s fighin’ words. And that’s an understatement. Honestly, he’s very lucky my brother lives in Indiana and that CW rather more enjoys watching me fight my own battles than fighting them for me. Regardless, I didn’t actually give this dud of a man the satisfaction of truly replying. I said “sticks and stones, man” - and then referred the last line to CW - because if I’m so fat and stupid that I can’t keep a man, good lord, what’s HE been doing hanging around for 8 years now? The proud and all-knowing male authority ought to have notified him! Maybe he just changed addresses too many times.
What’s worse is, (and not a lot could have been worse at that point, so this is especially disturbing) is that I then got a weird, psychotic apology. Apparently he ‘didn’t know who i was’ and my more than platonic association with CW makes me somehow “cool.” I about lost my lunch. It sickens me, scares me, that this guy would respond to a woman he doesn’t even think he KNOWS in this way - no prior knowledge of them, no idea who they are. It doesn’t surprise me, however, that as soon as he knew I could put a face to the ranting, that he lost all his nerve. So - my final verdict is this: The guy’s a misogynist. A bigot. Possibly crazy. But he’s also ball-less scum. And I think that’s pretty fitting.
You know, now that this has a few days distance, I’m thinking that part of me does kind of want this guy to get his ass creamed by several of my closest friends. But, I think I rather more like what did happen. Most people responded very curtly - said they never, ever wanted to see him again, end of story. No fuss, no more attention-mongering, they just cut him off. CWs company did the same actually - bringing the slanders to the attention of his employer (who is a friend) just because they thought he might want to know what kind of person he was setting loose inside his clients’ offices. And then they vowed to terminate their business relationship until this guy was off their payroll.
There’s no moral here really. And no end to the story - yet anyway. All I know is that I knew, somewhere in my little paranoid, cynical heart that guys like this actually existed out there. But I never, ever, ever thought I’d meet one.
Huh. Wasn’t pleasant.